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hours. brian, thanks very much. brian schactman, fiscal cliff talk. >> and form er fed chair alan greenspan is here and dow component dupont, is it holding back on investing and hiring because of the fiscal cliff? we'll speak to the boss ellen bowman giving me her cliff notes so stick around. ericans believee in charge of their own future. how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, ameriprise financial has worked for their clients' futures. helping millions of americans retire on their terms. when they want. where they want. doing what they want. ameriprise. the strength of a leader in retirement planning. the heart of 10,000 advisors working with you one-to-one. together for your future. ♪ >>> welcome back. breaking news. let's get to jackie d'angelis on dupont. >> announcing a share buyback program and the company updating its guidance for 202012 on the previous guidance, the high end of the range of $3.25 to $3.30 in the earnings per share. the company also announced its outlooks in earnings to growth and low to mid-single digits. growth in the low single digits. bac
the fiscal cliff talks? >> right now, susie, the fiscal cliff talks are clearly the item dejure for the stock market. i think most people expect exactly what eric miller was talking about from the fed. and bern bueno ben bernanke hasn transparent and telling people well in advance what he is going to do. the $85 billion should continue building up for our taxpayers balance sheet. >> susie: how does all of this play out in the markets. all of the bond buying, companies are still lding off from hiring and spending, and now the risk, possibly of a recession. how does it play out in the markets for 2013? >> what has happened, with all of this cash going into the market -- into the economy, not only from the u.s. fed, but from europe, from the central bank there, as well as from china, don't forget, so we've had this liquidity which has taken asset prices with the stock market and the bond markets, pricing it way up, it is actually helping housing after a long wait. moving into the future, there will be some duction in relythe fear that people have. it is not only a lack of confidence, but it is a
for the american economy. >> an added wrinkle to the fiscal cliff talks is the debt ceiling, with the government on pace to reach its borrowing limit early next year. the white house stated its position on the 14th amendment, which some theory rise is a way for the president to raise the debt limit independently, should republicans attempt to use it as a negotiating tool. >> i can say that this administration does not believe that the 14th amendment gives the president the power to ignore the debt ceiling, period. >> the fiscal cliff talks reached a new low yesterday when, somehow, the new york jets got dragged into it on the senate floor. >> it's not one of my favorite teams, but it's really, really fun to watch, and that's the new york jets. coach ryan, he's got a problem. he has three quarterbacks, sanchez, he's got tim tebow, he's got another guy. he can't decide who their quarterback is going to be. that's the same problem republicans are having. romney's gone, but he's still in the background. we have mcconnell and we have boehner. who is the quarterback, mr. president? who is the quarterb
to ignore the debt ceiling, period. >> the fiscal cliff talks reached a new low yesterday when, somehow, the new york jets got dragged into it on the senate floor. >> it's not one of my favorite teams, but it's really, really fun to watch, and that's the new york jets. coach ryan, he's got a problem. he has three quarterbacks, sanchez, he's got tim tebow, he's got another guy. he can't decide who their quarterback is going to be. that's the same problem republicans are having. romney's gone, but he's still in the background. we have mcconnell and we have boehner. who is the quarterback, mr. president? who is the quarterback? >> there's some confusion about who the quarterback is on the republican side. that is, of course, quite common when you don't have the white house, but there's no doubt about who the quarterback is on the democratic side. the quarterback on the democratic side is the president of the united states. and unfortunately, he keeps throwing interceptions, and we're moving backward and backward and backward towards the goal line. >> i have a headache. >> should they not b
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of the fiscal cliff instead of engaging in serious talks to avert the cliff, that includes spending cuts and tax reforms the president once supported. the white house has only offered a joke. i understand we have speaker boehner to the microphones. let's take a listen. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. eight days ago secretary geithner came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on. it had more stimulus spending than it had in cuts. and an indefinite, infinite increase on the debt limit, like forever. four days ago we offered a serious proposal, based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then, there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the cliff. instead of cutting spending, the president want to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would c
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making remarks on the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations. jim, not giving us a ton to chew on there other than talking about a sea of red i think as far as the eye can see and the lack of seriousness. >> sharp ability to cut to the real matter. i think people are scratching their head at why we just had to watch that. >> you never know. there has been silence, right? there has been silence for the last two days, so perhaps, as david corn suggested to me earlier in makeup, this is boehner's bid to get some air time. >> yes. >> i think the story is pretty simple. the republicans are going to keep saying that every single day, and the president is going to keep saying raise taxes every single day until behind the scenes the two of them get a deal. i am still an optimist that they will get a deal. i think it's manifestly in both of their self interests. i don't think the president's hand is as strong as he thinks it is, and i think boehner has much more incentive than he leads on to figure out a way to get a deal to avert this. neither of these men want to go in to next year wi
to talk to you. >> thank you. lou: george gilder. much more on the fiscal cliff and the republican messaging, if you can call it that, perhaps tonight's broadcast. he egyptians revolting against the brotherhood. syria apparently mixing chemical weapons. the foundation for defense of democracy joins us here in moments. the unemployment rate drops. so did the number of workers in the labour force. we will be taaking about this economy and what washington is trying to do to it and us next trying to do to it and us next with peter wallace and. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pn quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. ♪ lou: house speaker boehner says the president is slow walking our economy to the fiscal cliff. former reagan white house counsel, financial crisis inquiry commission member peter wallace will join me here in just moments. let's take a look at tonight's "moneyline." the dow and s&p managing
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here. always great to talk to you. >> thank you. lou: george gilder. much more on the fiscal cliff and the republican messaging, if you can call it that, perhaps tonight's broadcast. he egyptians revolting against the brotherhood. syria apparently mixing chemical weapons. the foundation for defense of democracy joins us here in moments. the unemployment rate drops. so did the number of workers in the labour force. we will be taaking about this economy and what washington is trying to do to it and us next with peter wallace and. ♪ the catal one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on all purches, plus a 50% annl bonus. and everyone likes 50% more... [ midwestern/chicago accent ] cheddar! yeah! 50 percent more [yodeling] yodel-ay-ee-oo. 50% more fla. [ southern accent ] 50 percent more tars. that's where tots come from. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on every purchase plus a 50% aual bonus on the cash yoearn. it's the card for people who like more cash. 50% more spy stuff. what's in your wallet? this car is too small. ♪ lou: house
talk about the fiscal cliff without referring to the incipient cause, there rid of it all, and that is why i believe it is entirely appropriate told the president accountable for the fiscal cliff because this is the only bullish and work here. it is this president who has decided to issue an ultitum. first on taxes and being raised on only 2 percent of the people. secondly, insisting that the bt ceiling issue be compounded with it all. this is without question an ultimatum, the consequences are his. what do you think? >> well, i am afraid that even though the consequences are his, the consequences for the economy will be his. i think he is betting, i think there is pretty god evidence right now that he is betting that he can win this argument because the media and his megaphone enable him t persuade the american people that the republicans will be the cause of the troubles that we will face if we go over the clf. lou: history is littered with examples of those to proceed and rationally so but came up against creative, energetic opposition that found a way to prevent. it al
the resources, but at a time when we are talking about the fiscal cliff, soaring deficits and whatnot i asked whether or not that will be paid for. they will come up with other budget offsets or the emergency money will go straight to the deficit. he said it was unclear. that probably means it will go to the deficit. as you know they are having a hard time right now finding other things to cut in terms of spending. so while there are people who need it, that's going to be another major issue moving forward. how the federal government will spend about $50 billion when right now we are pretty much broke, neil. >> incredible. they know it is a nonstarter. do they not care? >> it is probably going to end up, as you know, you have seen this before, folded into the rest of the negotiations. you are right. there will be p republicans objecting. some said we don't need budget offset. there are republicans saying yes we do. it will probably end up getting rolled into the broader fight over the fiscal cliff. it is unlikely they will get pay fors. >> ed henry, thank you very much. the super hero versus
a fewtoday we are going to talk about three issues briefly. one is that fiscal cliff, to is the debt ceiling. three is the so-called big deal that has to be done on our debt and deficit. unfortunately those issues, convoluted, especially in this town. they are distinct. the impact each other but they are distinct. this fiscal cliff is an artificial state. congress came in, said this law expires on this date. they extended it wants. they put in the sequestration. it is a date. all they have to do is extend the date and allow themselves time to discuss the issues. instead they are putting it all into a lame duck session. that is a problem. sometimes it leads to bad policy. the fiscal cliff can have real consequences. cbo has said that it would cause a recession if we were to go off the fiscal cliff. i do not dispute that i do point out that in 1993 when these taxes were first put in, many said they will cause a recession. they did not. the economy is improving on its own right now. and getting some much stronger. the impact of the fiscal cliff, while not something to be encouraged, may not be
buy fiscal cliff talks by going to c-span.org and clicking on the link. -- you can read more about the fiscal cliff talks by going to c-span.org and clicking on the link. we will year from representative john larson on the fiscal cliff negotiations. after that, we will hear from stephen ohlemacher. you can see "washington journal" everyday life at 7 p.m. -- 7 a.m. eastern here on c-span. coming up next on c-span, the in going an upcoming german discusses what they want to see and a and budget deal. then david walker and rudy penner discuss the fiscal cliff negotiations. later, a discussion on the potential impacts of the negotiations and state budgets. >> the white house was very controversial, as most americans were. they designed washington city. there was competition. he designed a design for a palace. it was not particularly awe- inspiring. in fact, a european diplomat told congress it was neither large or awe-inspiring. but the answer the congressman gave was the building serves its purpose. it is larger and more elegant. photo mer new york times bodh critic on the white house
be done about the fiscal cliff talk. what surprised us off the record behind the scenes, democrats and republicans agree they should be doing a lot more than they're talking about as part of the current negotiations. they said if you did more on tax reform and particularly on the corporate side and more on social security as far as limiting the growth of that program, more on medicare, if you did something to exploit this oil and gas boom that we're seeing in north dakota, texas and across the country, if you did more to get high skilled immigrants into town, you could not only have an economic recovery but an economic boom. there's a lot of agreement off the record on this, but that politicians on both sides are scared to go out there and be the first to say, hey, let's do these big things that could have an appreciable effect on the economy. >> steve, do you agree with that assessment? what are the big things that need to be done? >> i totally agree. the thing that's depressing about the fiscal cliff plan, we will change the tax code, change this, a tax on gas to help the energy
party, and it comes around the issue of jobs. it comes around the issue of the fiscal cliff talks about what the party wants to be. whether there's going to be a tea party 2 or whether there's something of a vacuum that doesn't get filled with demint leaving the senate. >> all right. david, thank you so much. we'll be watching "meet the press" this sunday as we do every sunday. eugene, thank you as well. your latest column online at washingtonpost.com. >> guard that mustache, gene. >> i'm going to guard it with my life. >> and congressman emanuel cleaver, great to have you on set with us. >>> coming up, nbc chief white house correspondent chuck todd. and later in the show, "the economist" crunched the numbers and came up with the best countries to be born in in 2013. and the united states does not top their list. we'll find out who does ahead on "morning joe." [ male announcer ] there are plenty of reasons to be jolly at the chevy year-end event because chevy's giving more. more efficiency with sonic and cruze... more function in equinox and traverse... more dependability with the legen
♪] >> stephanie: nancy pelosi is going to brief us on the fiscal cliff talk at 12:00 eastern. >> it's joke! >> you can't take anything boehner says seriously at all. it's so win-win for the democrats on this. and i would like to see the president go off the cliff and let the republicans try to vote it down. >> stephanie: we posted a great article -- it was the best thing i have read about the l.a. times, where he said let's hold hands and walk down together. it's not that bad. all of the nobel prize winning economists asking george bush not to enact these policies in the first place. >> exactly right. this was used because bill clinton has a surplus. bush said let's give it away to rich people. where is the money? it's gone. we can't have these cuts anymore. >> stephanie: yeah. mitch mcconnell is up for reelection in 2014 rand pall not until 2016. >> yeah because mitch mcconnell would love to see rand paul gone. and they have already said they are going to open up their box of tricks against her. >> stephanie: rand paul is one of those tea party jerks that i can't wait
concerns with the fiscal cliff talks? guest: so for most small business owners and senior executives at big, big companies, the fear is that going over the cliff, even on a technical term is going to cause more uncertainty, increase their borrowing cost, and it's going to put our economic recovery at risk. and most point to simpson bowles and understand that we have to raise revenue and we also have to control spending, they generally like the outlines of simpson bowles deal they like the principles behind it, those are pretty clear, pred spread the cost, protect the most vulnerable, don't disrupt the economic recovery, try to simplify the tax code while you're at it. they generally support those principles. >> do you think a recession could happen if we go off this fiscal cliff? guest: they do. i think there's a qualitative difference this year and last. we saw business leaders were concerned that washington wasn't going to come together with a deal and it could end badly. but it was a more muted concern. i think they trusted that washington would get it done. an given how closely -- close
in the fiscal cliff talks. >> it doesn't come at an opportune time because of the fiscal cliff, both the talks and the idea we're short of money. traditionally, what this country has done is treated disaster separately. >> senators from the storm ravaged states believe the obama administration will propose roughly $50 billion in relief, far short of what the states want, $82 billion. >> is there that kind of money lying around? >> certainly not that kind of money lying around. it's such a complex time right now we're dealing with a host of issues. we're going over the fiscal cliffs. >> senator susan collins are facing budget cuts they would like to pay for the storm cleanup. the uncertain fate of the relief money comes little more than a month after the jaw dropping pre-rel pre-election image of president obama and governor christie shoulder to shoulder, a time when he promised to help victims quickly. >> i want you to cut through red tape. i want you to cut through bureaucracy. there's no excuse for inaction at this point. >> the white house said the president remains committed. >> there's no
of tax hikes for wealthier americans as it is? >> people talk about the fiscal cliff as if it is one thing. it is three. there's the obamacare taxes. to pay for obamacare were delayed until after he got himself safely elected. so in the next decade there are a trillion dollars of higher taxes. five of those big ones start january 1st. that is one part. part two, the bush tax cuts disappearing. that is $500 billion tax increase next year, 2013. and then the third part which is the spending restraint, sequester, which obama wants to put off. that would save 1.2 trillion over a decade. he wants to put it off and spend the 1.2 trillion. melissa: all true but, you know what? at this point it seems like it is not resonating with the averaae american. go out and look at polls. quinnipiac said 77% of all republicans think it is a bad idea for lawmakers to promise never to raise taxes. >> no, no, read that poll. melissa: reading it verbatim. >> the question was, should you not raise taxes on the high income earners, whatever. melissa: to never raise taxes on wealthy under any circumstance? >>
cliff. the leaders i talked to today know their actions will take us over a cliff. i understand there is now perception among the media. the no tax increase republican ares regard the stance as a birthright. a guy that is so anti-spend that he seemed to care more on these issues and more about the accountability for the disaster relief money. i can't believe that. but a lot of guys down there will do anything to prove a point. but i can tell you there are enough garrets to force us over the cliff. given that the garrets are over there. got a question either people don't know about the cliff or they believe that the deal will be done. and they that they have fulfilled the nor quist pledge. where were the republicans when they cut taxes from the chinese two, why didn't republicans press for spending cuts when the president extended the tax cuts? and why doesn't the president offer spending cuts to medicare and defense and social security? how about weapons programs that don't fit in the terrorism world. how about foreign aid and maybe trying to be helpful, i'm sure some of today's
something as equally as interesting, the fiscal cliff, shall we? we're going to talk to congressman justin amash, a republican from michigan. and he got -- was in for a little bit of a surprise earlier when he discovered that he was booted off the house budget committee. nice to have you with us, congressman. we appreciate your time. walk me through how you learned that you had been kicked off this very much of a big deal committee. >> thanks for having me on, soledad. i learned through news reports. so i started to hear the word on monday and didn't hear anything from leadership monday, tuesday and finally i approached him on wednesday about it myself. >> this is your own party that booted you off. i know you went to -- took to facebook and posted this. i'm going to read it for folks. you said i have still not received a single call, e-mail or text from republican leadership confirming this story that you're booted off. i wouldn't have even learned about it if not for the news reports. i look forward to hearing from the party's leadership about why my record offends them. has anyone respo
and house speaker john boehner met today at the white house to talk about ways to resolve the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, we have brand-new reaction from lawmakers from both sides of the aisle speaking out today with just weeks left to reach a deal and little reported progress. the fight appears to be moving towards spending cuts and more and more republicans seem to open to the call to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue. we 6 one house and that is it. a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i think it has merit where i go ahead and give the president the 2%, one speaker calls for an increase in revenues to 39.6 and the other things that the president hats called for. we have done trillion in cuts but we realize there will have to be other cuts and serious negotiations about that. we will have different views. my view and senator corker's views are different but we will have to find spending cuts. >> heather: brad blakeman is assistant to george w. bush and j
talking about the fiscal cliff from jake sherman from politico and also talk about apple announcing yesterday they are going to bring a whole manufacturing line of computers here to the united states. great news. >> that's great news on the jobs front. president obama taking a little easy today. meeting this morning with his senior add advisories who are going to occupy his morning time. sorry. then he has a bill signing this afternoon, the child protection act of 2012 signing in the offal office at twvenlt minutes 20 minutes after noon. jay carney as of yet, no white house beef briefing schedule for today. looks like everybody is getting ready to go into the weekend. one of those -- what are are those job numbers going to be? what do they mean? will other companies follow the example of apple? over the weekend, any more talks good the fiscal cliff and how are we going to get out of it? all of that in the next hour of the "full-court press." so hang around. >> this is "the bill press show." where you don't back down from a challenge. this is the age o
of the fiscal cliff negotiations. blink and you just might miss exactly nothing. while talks between speaker boehner and president obama over the past three days have been shrouded in secrecy, we've learned there have been two offers put on the table. the white house sent boehner a proposal on monday calling for $1.4 trillion in tax revenue, $200 billion less than the original offer. might that seal the deal? >> the president's called for $1.4 trillion worth of revenue. that cannot pass the house or the senate. >> okay then. the speaker's office responded with a deal of its own. yesterday it included precisely the same amount of revenue from the original proposal, $800 billion, which indicates there may have been concessions else where. a democratic source close to the white house tells nbc news the proposal included a permanent extension of the bush tax cuts. that is highly unlikely to fly, given the hard line the president has taken on tax rates and what he told barbara walters in an interview airing this friday on "20/20." >> taxes are going to go up one way or another and the key is to m
of the screen. we have lots more in the show. twenty-six days until we fall off the fiscal cliff. is that what democrats want us to do? pictures seem so. we go live to capitol hill in 10 minutes. while congress talked about wanting to cut excess spending, the numbers may tell a different story. i will break it down coming up next. ally bank. why they have a raise your rate cd tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in econocs, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise ur rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. gerri: where would we be without senator tom coburn? without the oklahoma taxpayer dollars? this fellow brought us this image. your member this? the shrimp on on the treadmill. does anyone have? @%e national science foundation studying the effects on disease. they decided to do this, and they spend 500,000 taxpayer dollars doing this study. if you can get scientists to waste money, the senator is back with another study. this time uncove
and for their economic growth. that may be a little hidden gem out there. all i'll say is with a lot of talk about fiscal cliff, including this program, bald it could be a problem, the stock markets are dissonant. they're dissonant in the chinese soft/hard landing and putting it into a soft landing. something good is going on out there. and we better keep a good eye on it. i'm sorry we don't have more time. >> i think there's plenty of good things. >> folks, you're not going to believe this, you're not going to believe this, the michigan statehouse has just passed a bill in favor of making that so-called union paradise a right-to-work state. yes, it's really true. right to work in michigan. thought it would never happen. we're about to talk to the governor of the great state of michigan about this incredible development after the break. no more union paradise. americans believe they should be in charge of their own future. how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, ameriprise financial has worked for their clients' futures. helping millions of americans retire on their terms. when they want. whe
into today. ben white to talk fiscal cliff with us. we're talking to amanda terkel from "huffington post" in the next hour. little little bit later in this hour, major neil franklin with a group called law enforcement against prohibition, they're not happy with so many police officers spending so much time chasing pot. we'll get into that with him. but first -- >> this is the "full court press". >> the most memorable quotes of the year. the top two belong to mitt romney. number one -- the number one most memorable quote is the 47% comment that was caught on video. number two is binders full of women. and a quote from president obama is number three. that was his you didn't build that comment. also in the top five, the president's horses and bayonets jab during the debate. >> bill: yeah. we can do that until the end of the year. pull our favorite clips from the campaign. >> bill: 9-9-9. >> some of the clint eastwood stuff could have been in there. >> bill: newt gingrich and the moon. >> plenty of talk about p
on this stock, if only you were the ones negotiating the fiscal cliff. thanks so much for joining us on "talking numbers." >> up next, we'll ask leader from both parties what they are willing to give up. representative lynn jenkins and x xafier becerra will join mvier . >>> all right. let's take a look at markets as we head towards the close. 30 minutes left, maria, and, you know, the optimism of this morning has been tempered by those comments from senator harry reid, apparently, that we would not have a deal, he didn't think, before christmas, and that it was up to the republicans to make the first move on spending cut proposals, not the democrat and a 100-point gain became 573-point gain on the dow. the nasdaq still doing very well. technology hanging on to their gains. apple is up smartly today with a gain of almost $12, back to $541, and the s&p up as well, but, you , the mood, it's clear again, this is one of those days where wall street is keeping a very close eye on the nuances coming out of washington. >> what nuances there are. the republicans want spending cuts, and then they will, i
different direction from the fiscal cliff and talk more about long-term and medium-term economic realities we face. in your written testimony to this committee, you warned against kicking the can down the road indefinitely because of the adverse effect that might have on the economy. the medium and long-term impact it might have. i thought your analysis was definitely something we need to pay attention to. as you observed in the failure to make progress in this area now could signal that we have bigger troubles ahead. the moody's analytics model that you used breaks down about 2028. the reason it does that because at that point, the interest on our national debt will start to cripple our economy. we will be left without much recourse. i'm not sure there is a tax increase on the planet that could suddenly fix that. i'm not sure we could print money fast enough. if we did, we would go the way of argentina. i tend to think of this medium and long term risk as the fiscal avalanche. the cliff is something we are approaching now and we can see where it is. we know will hit the cliff. the avalanc
get elected and then petraeus and then the fiscal cliff and the problem with super storm sandy is an ongoing recovery and will take months and year to fully recover . we need to get the media's attention focused because a lot of people are suffering. >> brian: we taped our "fox and friends" chriss mas show that had people affected by sandy and try to help them with releafeffort. staten ilandd and rockk aways as well. >> steve: you are teaming up with other celebrity and offer celebrity experiences where you might have lunchh or go behind the scene to raise thousands for the victims. >> my friend who is a ceo of charity folks has raised 10s of millions from variouss charities in the entire united states. he was focused on helping victims of sandy and have an interesting cross section. selena gomez. >> gretchen: kim kardashian. >> and going to the next taping of the selena. dinner with my brother alec coming up. >> steve: they have to tip. >> brian: you guys have to tip. >> no. i will take care of the tip. we justt announced that we are having a reunion of the cast of the soprano
for digging into this stuff. we've got the debate about the fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling and we're talking in the trillions. before you can even get to the trillions, if you can't stop stuff like this, does the american public ever believe that washington is going to get its act together if you can't stop this 100,000 here, million there, all, of course, adds up to billions. if we can't stop the zombies, taxpayers paying for the zombies, how can we ever tackle medicare and social security? [laughter] megyn: that's the thing that makes people upset, julie. all right, if you're going to increase my taxes to help pay down the debt, help people in need, that's one thing, but if i'm going to be paying for zombies or for santa to ride the $250,000 sleigh, i object. >> i'm a little embarrassed. can you imagine being an employee and having to pretended to be a zombie? >> those were actors. >> i don't know about that. [laughter] i think they may have been dhs employees dressed up. charles is right, thanksgiving a little ri -- this is a little ridiculous. i understand what they're trying
up to the fiscal cliff. >> brian: at least they are talking to each other. they are talking about raising rates for medicare to scen . rates to 37 . difdepped and inheritance and capitol gains on tap to go up. that could be devastating. >> steve: especially the difid end tax up a gigantical. >> brian: and capitol gains up five points. >> gretchen: stay tuned for that. he risked his life to help americans nail bin laden and now fox news has learned he was torteured in a pakistani jail. family members of the doctor said they can't even visit him. he was captured by pakistani officials and sentenced to 33 years in prison. got most wanten in the world. >> brian: why is there not more outrage on that. >> steve: and now extreme weather. he survived a tornado only to have this happen. watch. >> oh, my god, oh, my god. ci'm okay. che was chatting with a tv reporter when the roof came crashing down and luckily it was all caught on camera. >> gretchen: in country illegally. the university of california at berklyy offered 200 scholarship. a private company do mated money. >> brian: an easy b
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